Necromancer Armor Nerf - Guild Wars Forums

Aegeroth · Dec 12, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Does anyone know when a Necromancer Armor Nerf took place?
They reduced most armors by 11.

Lucky me, i was so poor i didnt get to buy any, recently went shopping, 15k armour value is 60, i bought Amnoon Oasis armour aaaages ago, and its 61

Price?
500 gold p/piece.

S_Serpent · Dec 12, 2006, 12:20 PM // 12:20

basic necro armor is only armor lvl 60, just like all other caster classes

see --> http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Necromancer_armor

but don't really understand what you mean either?

boxterduke · Dec 12, 2006, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Only Tormentor and Necrotic stats are at AL70 thats why it has the Light damage increased on it.
All other stats are 60.
What set were you looking at?

Kid Divinity · Dec 12, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Amnoon doesn't have max armor. Go to Droks Forge, Kaineng Center or Consulate Docks for max armor at regular prices.

EiS · Dec 12, 2006, 06:50 PM // 18:50

As far as i know Amnoon armor has always been armor 51 not 61 and casters armor has always been 60 max

ss1986v2 · Dec 12, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12

amnoon does have 61 base armor, but its the tormentor/necrotic armor (the +dmg vs light dmg, remember?). normal base necro armor is 51 at amnoon, and 60 max.

Former Ruling · Dec 12, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53

His problem: He is looking at Tormentor's Armor, which used to be AL70 (+dmg vs holy) which would make the Oasis AL of the Tormentor's 61AL like he noted.

Now he is looking at armors, and noticed that the AL was 60 max even though he PLAINLY remembers Oasis's being 61 and it wasnt even max. So he is assuming necro armor was nerfed.

His Solution: With the Insignia updates, all armor was reworded to where all extra armor is noted as being extra and isn't factored into the base (white colored) armor value.

So instead of "AL70 +x holy damage" it is now written as "AL60 Armor+10 Light damage increased by x"

So if one were ONLY looking at the base AL like he is, he would assume it was nerfed by 10 Armor lvls, when infact they are the same.

The same confusion happened with Sentinals, which was changed from "100AL (req 13 str)" to "80AL +20 vs physical +20 vs elemental (req13 str)", people were just looking at the AL and assumed it was nerfed by 20...

Aegeroth · Dec 13, 2006, 05:54 AM // 05:54

Thanks for that guys

Now i understand!

But there are still differences O_o, i think..

Holy Damage and Light Damage...
+5 and +6...

But i see the missing 10,

+10 Armour, no conditions.

-.- · Dec 13, 2006, 06:10 AM // 06:10

Armor: 61 = Armor: 51 + 10 armor

KamikazeChicken · Dec 13, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06

The "new" armor is now split up to show the properties of the INSIGNIA it inherently contains.

Aegeroth · Dec 13, 2006, 12:24 PM // 12:24

So whats the difference between Light and Holy, and why is one lower than the other?

Savio · Dec 13, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

Holy and Light damage are for all purposes the exact same thing with different names.

As far as the damage you take, the additional damage bonus is now locational instead of global; that is, you used to take +5 damage from Holy/Light for each piece you had, meaning you would take +20 damage no matter where you got hit. Now you just take +6 on the chest, +4 on the legs, and +2 anywhere else.

Dec 12, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17	#1
Aegeroth Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, AUS. Guild: Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM] Profession: N/Me	Necromancer Armor Nerf Does anyone know when a Necromancer Armor Nerf took place? They reduced most armors by 11. Lucky me, i was so poor i didnt get to buy any, recently went shopping, 15k armour value is 60, i bought Amnoon Oasis armour aaaages ago, and its 61 Price? 500 gold p/piece.

Dec 13, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00	#12
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Holy and Light damage are for all purposes the exact same thing with different names. As far as the damage you take, the additional damage bonus is now locational instead of global; that is, you used to take +5 damage from Holy/Light for each piece you had, meaning you would take +20 damage no matter where you got hit. Now you just take +6 on the chest, +4 on the legs, and +2 anywhere else. __________________ People are stupid.

Dec 12, 2006, 12:20 PM // 12:20	#2
S_Serpent Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: When not at Aziure's Wizard Tower you can find my in Belgium Guild: Knigths of the Keyboard Order - KkO	basic necro armor is only armor lvl 60, just like all other caster classes see --> http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Necromancer_armor but don't really understand what you mean either?

Dec 12, 2006, 02:09 PM // 14:09	#3
boxterduke Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walking the ruins of Ascalon Guild: DVDF Profession: Me/	Only Tormentor and Necrotic stats are at AL70 thats why it has the Light damage increased on it. All other stats are 60. What set were you looking at?

Dec 12, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21	#4
Kid Divinity Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Zydian Coven Profession: Rt/E	Amnoon doesn't have max armor. Go to Droks Forge, Kaineng Center or Consulate Docks for max armor at regular prices.

Dec 12, 2006, 06:50 PM // 18:50	#5
EiS Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Save The Dragons Profession: R/Mo	As far as i know Amnoon armor has always been armor 51 not 61 and casters armor has always been 60 max

Dec 12, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12	#6
ss1986v2 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Mo/	amnoon does have 61 base armor, but its the tormentor/necrotic armor (the +dmg vs light dmg, remember?). normal base necro armor is 51 at amnoon, and 60 max.

Dec 12, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53	#7
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	His problem: He is looking at Tormentor's Armor, which used to be AL70 (+dmg vs holy) which would make the Oasis AL of the Tormentor's 61AL like he noted. Now he is looking at armors, and noticed that the AL was 60 max even though he PLAINLY remembers Oasis's being 61 and it wasnt even max. So he is assuming necro armor was nerfed. His Solution: With the Insignia updates, all armor was reworded to where all extra armor is noted as being extra and isn't factored into the base (white colored) armor value. So instead of "AL70 +x holy damage" it is now written as "AL60 Armor+10 Light damage increased by x" So if one were ONLY looking at the base AL like he is, he would assume it was nerfed by 10 Armor lvls, when infact they are the same. The same confusion happened with Sentinals, which was changed from "100AL (req 13 str)" to "80AL +20 vs physical +20 vs elemental (req13 str)", people were just looking at the AL and assumed it was nerfed by 20...

Dec 13, 2006, 05:54 AM // 05:54	#8
Aegeroth Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, AUS. Guild: Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM] Profession: N/Me	Thanks for that guys Now i understand! But there are still differences O_o, i think.. Holy Damage and Light Damage... +5 and +6... But i see the missing 10, +10 Armour, no conditions.

Dec 13, 2006, 06:10 AM // 06:10	#9
-.- Banned Join Date: Oct 2006	Armor: 61 = Armor: 51 + 10 armor

Dec 13, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06	#10
KamikazeChicken Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	The "new" armor is now split up to show the properties of the INSIGNIA it inherently contains.

Dec 13, 2006, 12:24 PM // 12:24	#11
Aegeroth Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, AUS. Guild: Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM] Profession: N/Me	So whats the difference between Light and Holy, and why is one lower than the other?